All the discussion of the good & (mostly) bad aspects of ISS being delivered in binary form unless you pay lots of extra $$$ reminds me of the following: I used to work for a large federal (mostly DoD) contracting company. A number of the classified programs needed software tools, including some stuff freely available on the net (e.g., X clients, COPS, various subroutine libraries). I had a machine on the net, and tried to get stuff and give it to the classified projects. Turns out they couldn't accept it: even if I provided source, unless the product came from a "vendor" they had to read the source to make sure it didn't include any malicious code. If it came from a vendor in a shrink-wrapper package (e.g., in binary), it was a cinch to get it accepted. So there's some anti-logic for everyone bashing the binary policy of ISS. If I were still at that company and gave them ISS 1.0 source for free, they couldn't accept it, but if they bought ISS 2.0 binary then that would be useable. [Not to say I agree or disagree with the ISS policy...just to explain that there's another viewpoint.] --Jeremy Epstein Cordant, Inc. jepstein@cordant.com